A Vatican Retreat on
Homosexuality. Part VII
It turns out that the more you believe homosexuality is innate,
the more accepting you are of gay rights.
Part I Part II
Part III Part IV
Part V Part VI
Part VII
By Ellen Goodman
Saturday, December 3, 2005; A23
BOSTON -- Somewhere along the way the dividing line over gay issues
picked up and moved. It's no longer between red and blue states, or left
and right wings, but between nature and nurture. Or, to be more precise,
between those who believe that homosexuality is a choice and those who
believe that homosexuality is innate.
Remember the moment in the 2004 debate when CBS's Bob Schieffer asked
George W. Bush and John Kerry whether they thought homosexuality was a
choice? The president answered, "I don't know," and the senator replied,
"We're all God's children."
Well, it turns out that the more you believe homosexuality is innate,
the more accepting you are of gay rights. A full 79 percent of people who
think human beings are born with a sexual orientation support gay rights,
including civil unions or marriage equality. But only 22 percent of those
who believe homosexuality is a choice agree.
The same line can be found in the religious world between those who
regard homosexuality as a (bad) choice and those who see it as
(biological) trait. The most conservative Protestant churches that talk
about the homosexual "lifestyle" prohibit gay men and lesbians from being
ministers. Religious liberals who see sexual orientation as an inborn
trait are more open to gays in the pulpit.
All in all, Americans seem reluctant to condemn people simply for who
they are .
What, then, do we make of the Catholic Church's banning -- and perhaps
purging -- of gay priests? On Tuesday the much-leaked and much-awaited
document from the Vatican said the church "cannot admit to the seminary or
to holy orders those who practice homosexuality, present deep-seated
homosexual tendencies or support the so-called 'gay culture.' "
What was painful to many Catholics was the obvious scapegoating of gays
for the church sexual abuse scandal. But there was something less obvious.
Thirty years ago the Catholic Church accepted the view that some were
definitively gay. Church teachings said that "they do not choose their
homosexual condition." Nevertheless, the new document doesn't just ban
gays who "practice" homosexuality, breaking the vows of celibacy. It bans
all those with homosexual "tendencies."
In the strange new backsliding language of the Vatican, homosexuality
is a "tendency." The church doesn't define tendency, nor does it say
whether such a tendency is biological. Voluntary or not, it marks a man
permanently. As Matt Foreman, a gay activist who was raised Catholic,
says, "Doesn't matter what you do or believe or practice. If you are gay
there is no making that better in the eyes of the church."
Ironically, the only exemptions are offered to men who were not "real"
homosexuals but "transitory" ones. They're given a pass, in the words of a
Vatican cardinal, for "some curiosity during adolescence or accidental
circumstances in a state of drunkenness or particular circumstances like
someone who was in prison for many years." A drunk or ex-con is okay; a
chaste gay seminarian is not.
The same cardinal said that banning gays from the priesthood was no
more discriminatory than "if one does not admit a person who suffers from
vertigo to a school for astronauts." Such a dizzying analogy overlooks the
fact that gay men are already among the stars of the priesthood.
The document does more than denigrate the priests who have given their
lives to ministry. In the face of a conflict between biology and sin, the
church has labeled homosexuality as "intrinsically disordered."
Let's remember that the evidence is with those on the nature side of
the dividing line. While we don't know the precise biology, the weight of
research suggests that sexual orientation is indeed something we are born
with. Perhaps there is a "gay gene." Perhaps the Japanese scientists who
found how a gene alters the sexual orientation of the fruit fly will find
a similar switch for people.
Science may well offer some future shocks. Imagine, for a moment, that
we could tweak the "gay gene" in a petri dish or a womb. What would the
religious right, which opposes both homosexuality and embryonic cell
research, say about eliminating the "sin"? What would the left, which
favors reproductive choice but is appalled at the idea of "curing" a
population of homosexuals, say?
For now, however, the church has run directly into a conflict.
Increasingly, Americans accept homosexuality as something that isn't
chosen and cannot easily be changed. Meanwhile, the Catholic Church has
moved in the opposite direction, rejecting men with "deep-seated
tendencies."
Once, even the most conservative and patronizing churches proclaimed
they could love the sinner and hate the sin. The new pope's Vatican has
labeled homosexuals themselves as the sin. The case is closed and so are
the doors to the seminary.
© 2005 The Washington Post Company
Thursday May 10, 2001 08:10 PM EDT
Can Gays Go Straight and Change
Their Sexual Orientation? Part V.
A controversial US study suggests that gay people can become heterosexual
if they really want to.
Part I Part II
Part III Part IV
Part V Part VI
By Maggie Gallagher
Dr. Robert L. Spitzer is a brave man.
He was a brave man back in 1973 when, as a member of the American
Psychiatric Association's Task Force on Nomenclature, he met with gay
activists. As a result of his intervention, the APA, while rejecting the
argument that homosexuality is "a normal variant of human sexuality,"
agreed it "does not necessarily constitute a disorder."
He was an even braver man this week when he reported the results of a
new study of 200 "ex-gays": "(S)ome people can change from gay to
straight, and we ought to acknowledge that," as he told the Associated
Press.
Sixty-six percent of the men and 44 percent of the women studied
achieved what he terms "good heterosexual functioning," a sustained loving
and sexually satisfying relationship with a partner of the opposite sex,
as well as never or rarely fantasizing about somebody of the same sex. Dr.
Spitzer's sample was not random. He cannot tell us what proportion of
motivated homosexuals could achieve normal sexual relationships with
members of the opposite sex.
Research into effective voluntary therapies for same-sex attraction
disorder receives very little funding and a surprising amount of
professional intimidation. Even so, these results are remarkable.
Certainly gay activists think so. "I'm appalled, absolutely appalled --
it's not scientific," psychologist Barbara Warren of Manhattan's Lesbian
and Gay Service Center told the New York Post. Then she shifted into
totalitarian high gear: "I cannot believe Columbia would allow any of its
professors to do anything like this."
Gay activists have staked their political claims to normalization of
unisex marriage and relationships on the race analogy: Sexual orientation
is not a "lifestyle choice"; it is a fixed, unchangeable, probably
biological characteristic. To anyone with even a cursory knowledge of
sexual orientation research, this position is no longer scientifically
tenable. Research on identical twins, for example, reveals varying rates
of "concordance," but usually well under 50 percent. Though there may be
some biological influences, scratch the idea of a gay gene.
Another 1997 longitudinal study of bisexual men found that over a
one-year period, 17 percent of the men had moved toward a heterosexual
self-identity (compared to 34 percent who had moved toward a homosexual
self-identification). As lead author Joseph Stokes put it: "We also
acknowledge that changes in sexual feelings and orientation over time
occur in all possible directions."
Leading researcher on lesbian parenting Charlotte Patterson pointed out
in the November 2000 Journal of Marriage and the Family: "... mounting
evidence suggests that, particularly for women, sexual identities may
shift over time." A 1997 poll of readers of The Advocate (a major gay
publication) found that 54 percent maintained either that "Sexual
orientation can change" or that "We are all bisexuals." And in the April
issue of American Sociological Review, Judith Stacey and Timothy Biblarz
acknowledge that "Some lesbians relinquish lesbian identities to marry;
some relinquish marriage for a lesbian identity. ... Sexual desires, acts,
meanings and identities are not expressed in fixed or predictable
packages." Exactly.
I believe there is rather powerful evidence that human beings are a
two-sex species, designed for sexual rather than asexual reproduction. If
this is true, then the absence of desire for the opposite sex represents,
at a minimum, a sexual dysfunction much as impotence or infertility. Human
beings seeking help in overcoming sexual dysfunctions deserve our respect
and support (and may I mention, President Bush (news
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On the moral plane, I believe that no human being can be reduced to his
or her sexual impulses. Desire in itself cannot license us to act, nor can
our impulses compel our behavior or identities without our consent. I
cannot be defined by that for which I lust, unless I choose to be. In this
sense (and this sense alone), a homosexual or heterosexual identity is a
choice, for which (like all our choices) we must accept responsibility.
Advocates for treating same-sex relations as a normal, equally
desirable, human variant must begin making real moral, and not bogus
scientific, arguments.
Source:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ucmg/20010510/cm/fixing_sexual_orientation_1.html
Readers may reach Maggie Gallagher at
GallagherIAV@Yahoo.com.
Wednesday, 9 May, 2001, 11:01 GMT 12:01 UK
Can Gays Go Straight and Change
Their Sexual Orientation? Part IV.
A controversial US study suggests that gay people can become
heterosexual if they really want to.
The finding flies in the face of the established scientific opinion
that sexual orientation is fixed.
Critics say many of the people who took part in the study may have
been pressured to believe that being gay was wrong.
It has also been vehemently attacked by gay rights activists.
Dr Robert Spitzer, a psychiatry professor at Columbia University, New
York, is due to present the findings of his research at a meeting of the
American Psychiatric Association in New Orleans on Wednesday.
He said he cannot estimate what percentage of highly motivated gay
people can change their sexual orientation.
But he said the research "shows some people can change from gay to
straight, and we ought to acknowledge that."
Dr Spitzer conducted 45-minute telephone interviews with 200 people,
143 of them men, who claimed they had changed their sexual orientation
from gay to heterosexual.
They answered about 60 questions about their sexual feeling and
behaviour before and after their efforts to change.
Most said they had used more than one strategy to help them change.
About half said the most helpful method was to work with a mental
health professional, mostly commonly a psychologist. Others used books,
or mentoring by a heterosexual.
Dr Spitzer concluded that 66% of the men and 44% of the women had
arrived at what he describes as "good heterosexual functioning".
He defined this term to mean being in a sustained, loving and
sexually active heterosexual relationship within the past year.
No convincing evidence
Psychologist Dr Douglas Haldeman, of the University of Washington,
said the study offered no convincing evidence that people's sexual
orientation had been changed.
He also said the participants appeared unusually skewed toward
religious conservatives and people treated by therapists "with a strong
anti-gay bias."
Dr Haldeman said such participants might think that being a
homosexual is bad and feel pressured to claim they were no longer gay.
He added that some 43% of the sample had been referred to Spitzer by
"ex-gay ministries" that offer programmes to gay people who seek to
change.
An additional 23% were referred by the National Association for
Research and Therapy of homosexuality, which says most of its members
consider homosexuality a developmental disorder.
David Elliot, a spokesman for the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force
in Washington, said: "The sample is terrible, totally tainted, totally
unrepresentative of the gay and lesbian community."
Source:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_1320000/1320743.stm
See also:
Gay men 'take more sexual risks'
Wednesday May 9, 2001 9:03 PM ET
Can Gays Go Straight and Change Their Sexual Orientation?
Part III. Studies Conflict on Whether
Homosexuals Can Change
By Michael Depp
NEW ORLEANS, La. (Reuter) - A study released on Wednesday concluded
that many homosexuals can change their sexual orientation through
counseling, but another said most attempts to counsel change fail and
some are harmful.
The research, unveiled at the annual meeting of the American
Psychiatric Association, quickly became part of a long-running debate
over whether homosexuality is a matter of choice.
Columbia University psychiatrist Robert Spitzer said he interviewed
143 men and 57 women who underwent so-called ''reparative'' counseling
and found that 66 percent of the men and 44 percent of the women
reported ``good heterosexual functioning.''
``Like most psychiatrists I thought that homosexual behavior could
only be resisted and that no one could really change their sexual
orientation,'' Spitzer said. ``I now believe that to be false. Some
people can and do change.''
Homosexuals had to be ``highly motivated'' for the counseling,
which can be psychological or religious, to achieve the goal of
changing their sexual orientation, he said.
The APA put out a statement distancing itself from Spitzer's
findings, saying there was no ``publishable scientific evidence''
showing that therapy could change a person's sexual orientation.
In the second study, New York City psychologists Ariel Shidlo and
Michael Schroeder said just six of 202 gay men and lesbians they
interviewed reported changing their orientation to heterosexual after
counseling.
Of the rest, 178 said they had not changed and 18 reported becoming
asexual or sexually confused. Schroeder called for long-term research
to determine the efficacy of counseling, which he said can leave
patients depressed and suicidal if it does not change them.
``For those who fail, there is an enormous sense of internalized
shame about it,'' Schroeder said.
Gay groups attacked the Spitzer study as tainted, pointing out that
most of the patients were referred to him by groups which encourage
homosexuals to become heterosexual.
Tim McFeeley, political director of the National Gay and Lesbian
Task Force (news
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web sites) in Washington, called Spitzer's study ``snake oil
packaged as science'' and accused him of being in bed with the
religious right, which crusades against homosexuality.
``The general public and virtually every legitimate medical group
has come to know that sexual orientation is not a disease that can be
cured by reparative therapy or by religious extremism,'' he said.
But supporters said Spitzer's study raised important questions.
``We have always heard that homosexuality is innate and immutable.
This suggests that it is neither,'' said Dean Byrd, vice president of
the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, or
NARTH.
The study was particularly significant, he said, because Spitzer
led a 1973 task force to remove homosexuality from the APA's official
list of mental disorders, in effect saying it did not require
treatment.
He downplayed the findings of Shidlo and Schroeder, saying: ''You
can get whatever you go after.''
McFeeley said NARTH, based in Encino, California, was anti-gay, but
Byrd said it was an organization of scientists who believe
homosexuality may be a matter of choice.
Source:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010509/sc/life_gays_dc.html
By Paula Moyer
NEW YORK (Reuter Health) - The
American
Psychiatric Association (APA) said on Thursday that the
organization ''maintains there is no published scientific evidence
supporting the efficacy of reparative therapy as a treatment to change
one's sexual orientation.''
A study presented on Wednesday at the APA's annual meeting in New
Orleans suggested that some homosexuals could adopt a heterosexual
lifestyle using ``sexual reorientation therapy,'' a controversial
process in which a person who is homosexual attempts to change their
sexual orientation.
The therapy consists of counseling and other techniques, and
organizations that encourage its use tend to be socially and
religiously conservative and disapprove of homosexuality. The APA says
that the psychological risks of such therapy are ''great,'' because
having a therapist who is aligned with societal prejudices against
homosexuality ``may reinforce self-hatred already experienced by the
patient.''
However, the study was not designed to fit any political or social
agenda, according to the New York researcher who presented the
findings.
``I'm really concerned about the way the study's been presented, as
if any highly motivated homosexual can change,'' Dr. Robert L. Spitzer
told Reuter Health. ``That was not what we were saying.'' Spitzer is a
professor of psychiatry in the biometrics department at Columbia
University.
In the study, Spitzer and colleagues conducted telephone interviews
with 143 men and 57 women who tried sexual reorientation therapy.
According to the interviews, 66% of the men and 44% of the women said
they had changed from a homosexual to heterosexual orientation.
Change in orientation was measured by several indicators beyond
sexual activity, Spitzer said, including thoughts while masturbating
and daydreaming, as well as a yearning for romantic involvement with
someone of the same sex. Although many of the study participants were
interviewed at home, most of the married participants' spouses knew
about the subjects' previous lifestyle, he said.
However, the study has been criticized because it included many
people from ``ex-gay ministries,'' which are religious groups that
condemn homosexuality.
An APA spokesperson told Reuter Health that reconsideration of
sexual reorientation therapy is not condoned by the APA or by most
associations of mental health professionals.
``The APA dismissed homosexuality as a diagnosis in September of
1973, after detailed scientific consideration.... Since then, it has
been very clear to the great majority of psychiatrists that the change
was correct,'' Dr. Lawrence Hartmann, told Reuter Health.
``In 1998 and 2000, the APA condemned so-called 'reparative
therapy' and said it was unethical for psychiatrists to participate in
it.'' Hartmann is a past president of the APA and a professor of
psychiatry at Harvard Medical School (news
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web sites).
``There is no scientific evidence in any peer-reviewed journal that
supports changing people's sexual orientation,'' said Dr. Marshall
Forstein, an assistant professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical
School. Forstein was the introductory speaker of a session exploring
the ethical issues involved in sexual orientation therapy.
``In order for conversion therapy to be practiced ethically,
several conditions would have to be met,'' Forstein told Reuter
Health.
``The client would have to give informed consent. The therapist to
disclose that this type of therapy is not condoned by the major mental
health organizations, and that the therapy could be harmful and entail
risks. The therapist would also be required to offer to refer the
client to a therapist with a different perspective, should the client
choose,'' Forstein added.
He said that ``while therapists can be ethical and listen to a
client talk about wanting to change sexual orientation, this practice
is different from the therapist having an agenda and telling the
client that a change would be morally and socially preferable.''
At the APA annual meeting last year, a debate on sexual
reorientation was canceled by the participants, but not by the APA,
Spitzer told Reuter Health. Despite the APA's official stance, the
organization did not discourage him from presenting his findings this
year, he said.
Source:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010510/hl/gays.html
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"The American Psychiatric Association (APA) maintains that there is
no published scientific evidence supporting the efficacy of
reparative therapy as a treatment to change one's sexual
orientation," according to the the group's medical director Dr.
Steven Mirin.
Mirin made his comment in response to a study presented at the
association's annual meeting that asserted some highly motivated
individuals may be able to change their sexual orientation from
homosexual to heterosexual.
The association, Mirin says, does not endorse meeting
presentations, nor do the presentations necessarily reflect the
organization's policy.
As is the case at many scientific meetings, many papers presented
at the APA meeting have not been subject to peer review nor have
they been published in the scientific literature, Mirin says.
The APA opposes any psychiatric treatment, such as reparative or
conversion therapy, which is based on the assumption that
homosexuality, per se, is a mental disorder or based on the
assumption that a patient should change his or her sexual
orientation.
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Scientist Says Study Shows Gay Change Is Possible.
Part VI.
By ERICA GOODE
NYtimes.com
A psychiatrist at Columbia University who contends that the
mental health profession has "totally bought the idea that once you
are gay you cannot be changed" will report today that some "highly
motivated" gays can become heterosexual.
The researcher, Dr. Robert Spitzer, said his study was based on
45-minute telephone interviews with 143 men and 57 women who had
sought help to change their sexual orientation. He and his
colleagues found that 66 percent of the men and 44 percent of the
women had achieved "good heterosexual functioning," he said.
"If somebody wants to change and it's not because they are just
responding to pressure, it shouldn't be automatically assumed that
it's irrational or giving in to society," Dr. Spitzer said in an
interview.
But the findings, to be described today in New Orleans as part of
a symposium at the American Psychiatric Association's annual
meeting, conflict with those of another study also to be presented
at the same session. That study, by two psychologists in New York,
found that of 202 homosexual subjects who had received therapy to
change their sexual orientation, 178 reported that their efforts
"failed," many were harmed by the attempt to change and only 6
achieved what the researchers called "a heterosexual shift."
Dr. Spitzer's study was criticized by gay rights groups, which
noted that most subjects in the research study had been recruited
through groups that condemn homosexuality, like Exodus, a Christian
ministry that describes itself on its Web site as "promoting the
message of `freedom from homosexuality through the power of Jesus
Christ.' "
"It's snake oil, it's not science," David Elliot, the
communications director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force,
a lobbying group in Washington, said of the study.
The study has not been published or submitted for professional
review.
Scientists do not know what determines whether someone becomes
heterosexual or homosexual. But most believe that biology plays a
strong role in sexual orientation. And most mental-health
organizations have passed resolutions discouraging the use of
so-called reparative therapies intended to change homosexuals into
heterosexuals, saying no scientific evidence exists to show they are
effective.
Dr. Spitzer led the task force that in 1973 removed homosexuality
from the official list of mental disorders contained in the
psychiatric association's diagnostic manual.
But he said he decided that a study was needed after talking with
protesters objecting to the association's policy discouraging such
therapies.
"It occurred to me that maybe the general consensus, which was
that the behavior can be resisted but sexual orientation couldn't be
changed, was wrong," Dr. Spitzer said.
Still, he added that the number of homosexuals who could
successfully become heterosexual was likely to be "pretty low." And
he conceded that the subjects in the study were "unusually
religious" and were not necessarily representative of most gays and
lesbians in the United States.
Of those who participated in the study, 78 percent had spoken
publicly in favor of efforts to convert homosexuals to
heterosexuality; 93 percent said religion was "extremely" or "very"
important in their lives. About 40 percent said that before they
decided to change their orientation they had been exclusively
attracted to partners of the same sex.
Dr. Spitzer said the subjects expressed different reasons for
wanting to become heterosexual. They included the feeling that a gay
"lifestyle" was "not emotionally satisfying" (81 percent of
subjects); the belief that their religion conflicted with being gay
(79 percent of subjects); and the desire to get married or to stay
married (67 percent of the men, 35 percent of the women).
Some subjects — 11 percent of the men and 37 percent of the women
— Dr. Spitzer said, reported being entirely free of homosexual
feelings or sexual fantasies in the year before they were
interviewed. But 29 percent of the men and 63 percent of the women
said they were "only slightly bothered" by such feelings.
The researchers defined "good heterosexual functioning," as
having been in a "loving and emotionally satisfying heterosexual
relationship" for the year leading up to the interview, having
engaged in satisfying heterosexual sex at least monthly and having
never or rarely thought of same-sex partners during heterosexual
sex.
In contrast, Dr. Ariel Shidlo and Dr. Michael Schroeder, both
psychologists in private practice in Manhattan, found that the vast
majority of the subjects in their study, who were recruited through
the Internet and direct mailings to groups advocating reparative
therapy, reported failure in their efforts to change through
reparative therapies.
Their study has also not yet been published or submitted for
professional review. Dr. Schroeder said 18 subjects who deemed
themselves "successes" in becoming heterosexuals "don't fit into
what the public sees as success."
"They were celibate or they continued to really struggle with
homosexual desire or behavior," he said.
Many subjects, Dr. Schroeder said, had invested 5 to 15 years in
the therapies, and when they were not successful experienced "an
inordinate sense of loss."
Source:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/09/health/09GAY.html
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